Can I play anything besides individual N-spot tickets?
What Can I play anything besides individual N-spot tickets?
Dec 26th, 2007 22:18
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Oh, yes. There are combinations and way tickets.
Speaking of shorthand, the notation: "$3";"1/3";"1/4";"1/7";"$1" is this
FAQ entry's notation for writing those numbers in a column off to the
right of the card, as in
You can get even more exotic. Say in addition to the 3- and 4-spots you
want to play a 2-spot in the lower left. Now a simple horizontal line
isn't enough to separate the groups of numbers you choose. What you
would do is circle the groups of 2, 3 and 4 to clarify how you want to
group your ticket. Then off to the right you explain how you are
betting. Are you playing a 2-spot, 3-spot and 4-spot? How about the
5-spot, 6-spot and 7-spot that comes from combining the 2-, 3-, and
4-spots in various groupings? How about the 9-spot that comes from
playing all 9 numbers at once? Once again, you indicate what you are
playing by making notations on the right of the ticket. You don't have
to play everything. You can play the 2-spot, 3-spot, 4-spot and 7-spot
by marking your ticket with: "$4"; "1/2"; "1/3"; "1/4"; "1/7"; "$1". But
beware: if your 2-spot and 4-spot come up, you'll get paid the $85 or so
total for catching the 2-and 4-spot but you won't get paid for catching
the 6-spot formed by combining them because you dind't play that option.
You would have had to pay another $1 and designate "1/6" on your ticket.
If you mark a single spot and circle it, it is sometimes called a "king
number" and is usually combined with other groups or even other king
numbers. But it's basically a group-of-one.
Even more complicated are "way tickets" which are essentially
combination tickets that involve a large number of uniform choices
intertwined in all possible ways. A simple example involves picking,
say, 5 sets of two numbers each. Maybe you choose 11-22 (mark and circle
these two), 4-25 (mark and circle these two), 38-40 (mark and circle
these), 64-65 (mark and circle these) and 76-77, also marked and circled.
Now what you want to play is every possible 6-spot that can be formed by
combining the circled numbers. With 5 groups of two numbers, noting you
need 3 groups of 2 to form 6 numbers, there are C(5,3) = 10 possible
ways to form 6-spots out of those groups of two. So far you've got a
ticket with 5 circles of 2 numbers each. To the right of the ticket you
write: "$10";"10/6";"$1". That is, you are paying $10 for the ticket,
playing 10 ways of 6 spots at $1 per way. For another dollar you could
have also played the 10-spot that is the total collection of 10 numbers
that you circled. That ticket would be marked "$11";"10/6"; "1/X";"$1".
The "X" is keno notation for "10" when it denotes the number of spots
being played. (No, "V" is not used for "5").
Beyond complicated, into the realm of hairy, is the 190-way 8-spot
ticket. Nearly every keno brochure features this to entice players into
what looks like it must be a sure thing. The player draws a horizontal
line to divide the card into upper and lower halves. Then draw a
vertical line between each column as well. This has the effect of
dividing the card into 20 columns of 4 numbers each, with the intent of
playing all possible ways of forming 8-spot tickets from pairs of
columns of 4 numbers each. Since it takes two columns to form an 8-spot,
and we have 20 columns, there are a total of C(20,2) = 190 ways to
combine 2 columns, i.e., create 8-spots.
If you were to play this ticket at the $1 rate it would cost you $190
per game. You are welcome to make that wager, but the casinos usually
allow you to bet less than the nominal minimum when you are playing way
tickets. For example, many casinos will let you bet 25 cents per way on
this type of ticket. At the 25-cent level you would write this up as:
(ticket with $47.50
lines drawn 190/8
all over it) 25c
Since you are playing 25 cents per way, any payoffs would be at
one-fourth of the $1 payoff scale. When the numbers are drawn for this
ticket you hope an entire column of 4 lights up, then it's just a matter
of waiting to see how much you'll collect.
As you can see, way tickets can be both expensive and exciting. But like
combination tickets they are really nothing more than keno shorthand for
a large number of individual tickets. Consequently they offer no
financial advantage or disadvantage over regular tickets.
Q:K7 What's this "red game" and "green game" I see some places?
A:K7 [John Hallyburton]
Some casinos will run multiple games to entice players to wager more.
You mark your ticket and tell the dealer to enter it in the "red game",
"green game" or both. Basically it's a way to increase action (wagering)
without having to increase floorspace and staff correspondingly. There
are two separate sets of balls and two keno boards, but only one keno
lounge and set of dealers. The casino figures you won't want to just
play one of the games because you "know" if you play just the "red game"
your numbers will come up only on the "green game". So players tend to
bet on both games, increasing the house's take. Mathematically there's
nothing special about playing both games, though sometimes casinos offer
prizes for hitting on both games. You can calculate the odds of hitting
on both games by multiplying combinations that pay off. For example, the
chance of catching 4 out of 6 is 0.02854, so the chance of catching 4
out of 6 in 2 simultaneous games is 0.02854 x 0.02854 ~= 0.0008 or 1 in
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